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Tracks?

Clubin said:
Looks like Camso has a set

atvtracks.net

Polaris 1500 Ranger XD Camso 4S1 Track kit

Shouldn’t your UTV really be an all-terrain vehicle? Are you still storing it away in the winter? Then it’s time to explore more. Introduce yourself to the Camso 4S1 track system for the 1500 Ranger XD. These UTV tracks are designed specifically for Polaris models with 1500.00 CC engines...
atvtracks.net atvtracks.net
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These are for the adv only. Not the ranger. The addd is incorrect.
 
Ah screw it. I ordered a set.

Great guys at Duratracks.

Ask for Steve Emerson. Very informed.
 
Those dura tracks are awesome! But I can’t justify the cost for myself. I don’t need them enough or want them bad enough for the cost. Maybe if I drew a long wait spring bear tag, but it’d depend on the winter we had and snow pack.
 
Thanks for the videos of the tracks, it was nice to see them in action. Like Mr.C not something I would buy but I understand why some would.
 
My Duratracks arrived yesterday and I installed them last night. I'll try and post thoughts occasionally.

Background - I use my Ranger primarily for grooming cross country ski trails; I started out in the late 80's working at various ski centers, and started my own small private trail system in 2005. I've operated Alpines (I and II), Scandiks, Nordics, Skandic SWT (yes, I did spell the first one correctly), Grizzly ATV with Tatou tracks (pre Camso), and the XD1500 is my 3rd Ranger (I upgrade about every 4-6 years now).

So first thoughts - tracks are lighter than I expected (still heavier than Camso, but I expected much heavier, and the Gen3 aren't). Chevron lugs are bigger (wider and deeper) than previous tracks; I'm curious to see what that means for grooming. I took it for a quick spin; turning radius is MUCH sharper than the XP1000 with Camso 4S1 UTV tracks... by literally feet (5' or more?). Ride was very firm, but I expected that (similar to Camso no suspension in the tracks). Traction was fine, but the snow isn't deep yet. That will be a good test (how IS floatation?)

Installation was straight forward - instructions were well laid out and easy to follow. Only challenge is the tracks weren't labeled. I've run tracked vehicles enough that it only took me a few minutes to figure out where each one went (looking at track direction, frame shape, and hub side), but I recommended they label them in the future to make it easier. Ease of installing Camso is similar - the anti-rotation brackets are easier to install, threading the rod in to the sleeve is easier than dealing with Camso's setup, but the tracks do not spin as easily and you can only get a socket on one lug at a time (Camso spun easier to move the hub and I usually could tighten 3 of the 4 right off the bat, then rotate for the last one. WIth design of the Duratrack frame you can only access one of the lug nuts at a time, and you have 5 of them to deal with). I was glad I had someone to help (we got a few on, spun it around, then tightened them all up as best we could, then after a quick spin torqued them to spec - having him tell me when to stop when the bolts were visible after creeping forward really helped. I'll add this would have been almost impossible with the XP1000 as really didn't creep.... and the XD1500 with the CVT steel belt drive can.
 
Adk Groomer said:
My Duratracks arrived yesterday and I installed them last night. I'll try and post thoughts occasionally.

Background - I use my Ranger primarily for grooming cross country ski trails; I started out in the late 80's working at various ski centers, and started my own small private trail system in 2005. I've operated Alpines (I and II), Scandiks, Nordics, Skandic SWT (yes, I did spell the first one correctly), Grizzly ATV with Tatou tracks (pre Camso), and the XD1500 is my 3rd Ranger (I upgrade about every 4-6 years now).

So first thoughts - tracks are lighter than I expected (still heavier than Camso, but I expected much heavier, and the Gen3 aren't). Chevron lugs are bigger (wider and deeper) than previous tracks; I'm curious to see what that means for grooming. I took it for a quick spin; turning radius is MUCH sharper than the XP1000 with Camso 4S1 UTV tracks... by literally feet (5' or more?). Ride was very firm, but I expected that (similar to Camso no suspension in the tracks). Traction was fine, but the snow isn't deep yet. That will be a good test (how IS floatation?)

Installation was straight forward - instructions were well laid out and easy to follow. Only challenge is the tracks weren't labeled. I've run tracked vehicles enough that it only took me a few minutes to figure out where each one went (looking at track direction, frame shape, and hub side), but I recommended they label them in the future to make it easier. Ease of installing Camso is similar - the anti-rotation brackets are easier to install, threading the rod in to the sleeve is easier than dealing with Camso's setup, but the tracks do not spin as easily and you can only get a socket on one lug at a time (Camso spun easier to move the hub and I usually could tighten 3 of the 4 right off the bat, then rotate for the last one. WIth design of the Duratrack frame you can only access one of the lug nuts at a time, and you have 5 of them to deal with). I was glad I had someone to help (we got a few on, spun it around, then tightened them all up as best we could, then after a quick spin torqued them to spec - having him tell me when to stop when the bolts were visible after creeping forward really helped. I'll add this would have been almost impossible with the XP1000 as really didn't creep.... and the XD1500 with the CVT steel belt drive can.
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Post up some pics. This is a big deal.
 
Is there anything in particular you'd like images of? We were working away in an unheated barn at night, so I only took two quick images when we were halfway through but I'll certainly be taking some out working this weekend.


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That’s great! How do they appear. Quality looks good? Installing tracks is never fun.
Mine are ready to ship. But I’m so busy this time of year. I’ll pick them up in the new year. Gotta cross the border to get them.

More pix when you get them.
 
Fit and finish is good to excellent. They are more "blocky" in construction than Camso, but also WAY heavier duty (as you'd hope for the price).

So far the tighter turning radius is a BIG plus as far as I'm concerned. I'm shocked how much tighter it is, especially given the XD1500's longer wheelbase (comparison is previous gen XP1000 (2018 or so, first model year of the new model)).

The smaller footprint may or may not be a negative.

The 50% reduction in speed I'm not sure about yet. I'm not looking for speed anyway, and the XD1500 doesn't exactly lack power. I'm curious to see what grooming RPMs (and therefore interior noise) end up being. I'd thought I'd be grooming at 15mph speedometer (roughly 10mph, which is a good target speed for a variety of reasons, at least in most conditions), but it appears I'll be at 20mph speedometer to be at 10mph ground speed...which means higher RPMs...and more noise. My big reason or upgrading was wanting a machine that was much quieter. My NIOSH app had the XP1000 at 90 db at grooming RPM; at 15mph in low the XD1500 was 72 (every 3db the sound level doubles, so that is a HUGE difference). Testing with the tracks on at 20mph it was 77-78db; still quieter but not as much as I'd hoped. I COULD slow down a bit of course, but with 12 miles of trails, some requiring multiple passes, keeping a good speed up while still preparing a premium trail is most efficient. I'll be curious to see what the sound level actually is when I have a good load of snow in the drag, or am pulling the rolling through deep snow. I doubt it will change significantly given the torque the XD1500 has, especially with the extra gearing with the tracks, but you never know until you measure it in the real world
 
We need something for adjusting the Speedo. So the odometer isn’t adding up double.
 
As I've written before I have mixed feelings about that - the drivetrain is turning that many revolutions, so it is providing an accurate wear estimate even if the amount of ground hasn't actually been covered. So far I've not had a problem selling any of my previous machines with track miles on them; if anything some folks my feel they have "less" miles on them than indicated, though again from a wear perspective I'm not sure that is accurate. In the end how the machine was taken care of matters more anyway imho.
 
I don't know shit about tracks and have zero use for them. That said they are cool as hell, and I would love to see more pictures of them in use. I hope they work well grooming the trails!
 
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